justin,

what did you ask me? i did not answer one question because of the way you were asking it, it was like you were taking the piss, maybe you were not and i got it wrong.

but on you go, ask me anything.

btw, there is a trial going on in the uk involving politicians who were caught through the expenses row. ( benefit fraud is what it really is)

i have mentioned the bill of rights for us to use and i have been told im talking shit. well they are trying to use it. i have also told people not to go in the dock if they go to court, again im talking shite, but guess what, this is what their lawyer told them to do, dont go in the dock. they got overruled by the judge ( i dont know why) and entered it. interesting to note that there was an advert on tv trying get people to grass benefit cheats off, i wonder if there will be a new one to include politicians and is this advert still being shown since the scandal?

they have also said something i find very interesting and im keeping an eye on it. they are now claiming parlimentary privilage, by that they are saying laws are made in westminster and it should be parliment (inside) that should be dealing with the case. now if they get away with that bullshit they will open a can of worms because nearly every law we have came from parliment. they will be changing parliment soon as we get our laws from europe, maybe they see a loophole.

you're correct CR, this case will be very interesting to watch and could initiate the changing of many outdated laws. it's interesting to note that these MP's are following your approach, so the outcome should make for some lively debate around here.

BTW, they are still running the benefit cheat ads on TV

I saw that yesterday where they said they shouldn't have to go into the dock and immediately thought of you Celtic, am keeping my eye on this case. One of the MP's caught up in this expenses fraud is someone I know, and I'm hoping he will also be charged as I have since found out that his whole family knew and were reaping the rewards of this fraud.

My sarcasm was intended to elicit a sheepish apology from you, and perhaps open a path for you to gracefully back away from the most offensive statement I have ever read on this messageboard.

You will no longer have to worry about me asking about the outcome of your council tax fight. After reading your incomprehensible defense of that statement, I really don't want to be part of this conversation anymore.

Justin
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Just for the record, CR, do you believe in the holocaust or do you think it is a conspiracy? A nice, simple straight answer will do.

have you seen the Scottish football thread.........he thinks celtic are a watchable, unbiased, sporting, unbiggotted and not smelly....my offence knows no bounds

justin,

what are you on about? what do you want an apology for, and can you point out what offensive statement i made. i was talking about vaccinations and flouride and made reference to the harm it can cause as it was used to kill people in concentration camps in the second world war. so come on, tell me what i said that you find offensive, you have a way of twisting things for you own opinion and like to make people look inveriour in doing so. "most offensive statement ever on this message board"? please tell me what it was, and dont twist it.

childlikedreams,

you asked me if i believed in the holocaust, i think you mean did i think it happened, answer, yes, 100%. i have found out a lot of things i believed in all my life now are bullshit lies, but i hope i dont ever get told different on the holocaust. there are a lot of people saying it was all made up so the jews could get palestine, but the jews were already promised palestine in 1917 from the british through the balfour decleration. the germans found out that they had been done a dirty from the zionist jews at the end of world war 1,(signing of the treaty of versailles) britain was getting spanked and not one german had been killed on german soil. the zionist saw a opening and did a deal with the british to bring america into the war through the bankers rothchilds (who are members of the zionist federation). the sinking of the lustania brought the americans into the war, but this was a false flag operation and the real reason was to get palestine and the americans into the war.

some of the the jews btw were given a chance to leave germany before the second world war by the nazi's, this was called the voyage of the damned, they were refused entry into of all places, america, who would go on to fund the concentration camps in poland.

i hope that answers your question.

I posted a message, but after second thought I'm deleting it. I just don't have the stomach for it any more. You win.

Justin
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This is an overly broad comment that needs to be put in check ...

It was NOT the American people who denied entry of Jews into the United States, it was the American government under the leadership of Roosevelt.

It was not the American government that financed concentration camps in Poland, it was a private American citizen named Prescott Bush (aka the grandfather to the American War President) who loaned the money to August Thyssen . After the US Congress passed the Trading With Enemies Act in 1942 that required Bush to divest his dealings with Thyssen, Bush did not divest any of those holdings until the early 1950s just prior to running for US Congress.

kevin,

it was the government i was on about, the people might not have even known about the ship, cuba also rejected them. and i did mention prescott bush in an earlier post and was still meaning him and his gang in the later post.

Just blame the Americans. I dont care...

you must remember Justin that some of us are British and don't understand american humour or sarcasm, but i'd love to know what the most offensive message was, do tell.

I understand what you were saying. The truth is the government is a reflection of the people they represent. So when the United States turned away the Jews, it was actually the American people turning away the Jews. But when I read in the same thread that America financed the concentrations camps, I felt a distinction had to be drawn to show a distinction between a government decision and a private American citizen. Prescott Bush was a private American citizen who financed and made money from his investment in the genocide of human beings, and he continued to profit from his wholesale investment in murder prior to becoming a US Senator years after WW II ended.

But the one question that still remains: Why did the American government allow Prescott Bush to quietly hold onto the investments he made with Thyssen?

As an American, I don't under stand British humor too well. I was told if you want to make an Englishman/woman smile in their old age, then tell them a joke when they're 20 years old.

That's because most Americans are bad at telling jokes and it takes a while to work out what they are on about