....Not a lot of people know that.

G

From what I've read so far not a lot of people will read that.

Case in point 'Caine's Palmer seems here to be simultaneously filled with self-regard and solipsistic remorse'

What a pile of pompous shite.

I just finished Operation Mincemeat: How a Dead Man and a Bizarre Plan Fooled the Nazis and Assured an Allied Victory
I hadn't heard about it before, so it was interesting.

leeann,

Is that where they put false documents on a corpse for the germans to find? I like to read about the "operations", have you heard of "operation winnie the pooh"? or "operation paperclip"?

I have just finished reading "freedom next time" by john pilger, what a book. Pilger is one of the best investicating journalists in the world, you wont get him on your mainstream news. The book has different chapters on many of britains brutality throughout the world, the first chapter about the islands of diegio garcia is shocking. They wipe the whole population off the island and now use it as a military base for British and american troops, and its through here they attack Iraq. This was done through the wilson government in the 1960s, and they totally denied it was happening, tony blair still doesnt like to talk about it, but it is still being fought by the people who were thrown off the island.

Made into the film 'The Man Who Never Was' and still undecide who the corpse used really was.

Early paperwork says a Welsh alcoholic Glyndwr Micheal was the body used in the operation, but later evidence claims his body wouldn't have fooled any ppost mortem by Germans so the body of Jack Melville who was killed when HMS Dasher was sunk in the Firth of Clyde due to either anaccidental torpedoing by a British submarine or alleged defects by its American shipbuilders which was kept quiet and the bodies of 379 victims buried in an unmarked mass grave.

Philip K Dick - Flow, My Tears, The Policeman Said.

Mick

I didnt know you could do braille michael.

looks more like an anagram.

G

I've had to take two Anagrams with a glass of water after trying to work it out.

Just read Rolling Stones And The Making Of Let It Bleed by Sean Egan.

What a load of tosh. He first of all wastes loads of pages by "setting the scene" in which the akbum was made (all the drugs busts, and all that stuff), then proceeds to repeat virtually everything that he has said during this front section, elsewhere during the rest of the book as he winds through the making of the album. Too many cliches, too many quotes from other books instead of his own delving and too many musical disagreements from my way of thinking for this to be a satisfying read.

eg 1 he dismisses Love In Vain as a waste of vinyl space, with suggestions of putting some of those songs that eventually came out on Metamorphosis. The fact is that they didn't come out originally because the Stones themselves knew they were infrerior - and only came out to satisfy a contractual requirement with Decca.

eg 2 having explained how Mick Jagger failed to get Escher to agree to their using one of his works on the cover, he then says how MTH managed to get permission for their debut the following year, inplying that MTH nicked the Stones idea etc., but totally missing the point (probably didn't actually know) that MTH's album came out at around the same time as Let It Bleed - maybe even just before.

I was hoping for a more detailed book really explaining each song in depth rather than a rehash of the same old stories about Brian Jones etc.

G

IIRC, they didn't get permission.

I asked that question years ago, and someone on here (or maybe the mailing list) said Guy Stevens just nicked it.

Mick

sounds right - this book is really off the pace regarding facts.

However I have heard before about how Mick J wrote to the man himself, who objected to Mick referring to him as "Maurits". - he did not consider that they were on first name terms and thought it was an insult - so no permission given.

Good for Guy though. (one of my back room heroes)

H

That bit's true. I read the story on an Escher website years ago. Or "Mr Escher" to jagger.

I think the MTH one slipped under his radar though.
Mick

I wondered if Reptiles was out of copyright but checked up and it was from 1943 so that's ruled out so must just not have noticed it as he had been ill since 1962 and went into a care home in 1970.

Philip K Dick - Dr Bloodmoney, in between dipping into the latest BBC History magazine.

Mick